hopefully divided

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A major issue for humanity is that big spiritual divides exist, and are expanding. Within these divides, some are entrenched in their place. Many seem indifferent to the divisions. Others embrace the plurality of differences.



meet the host

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Fred Wilgenburg


I am a pastor with a passion to share a message of peace and hope. I have been involved in outreach ministry for many years. My wife is Amy. We have three daughters in their twenties and we are at a stage where our family is growing—sons-in-law, grandchildren—a joy! Born and raised in southern California, I have now lived in the Midwest for most of my life.

I am interested in friendly dialogue about life, faith, and understandings.

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